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	<title>Comments on: NASA&#8217;s Ares I Launch Vehicle: U.S. Going back to the Moon</title>
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		<title>By: Jason Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.babeled.com/2008/09/13/nasa-ares-i-launch-vehicle-us-going-back-to-the-moon/#comment-12044</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 00:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear what you are saying, but there is no &quot;budgets be damned&quot; unless you are George W Bush who spends without regard.  NASA has limited resources and the government won&#039;t increase its deficit to further space exploration and research (only war-mongering, death and global mischief are permitted budget deficit appropriations according to the Bush Doctrine - just ask Sarah Palin I hear she is an expert).

Anyway, I admit that the points you raise are valid upon further reflection.  But that still doesn&#039;t mean that NASA is suppsed to be McGyver and send people into space with a paper clip, gum and a condom.  They need money to pay for research and development.

Where I disagree with you is that they haven&#039;t done anything in forty years.  If your measure of NASA&#039;s success is how far and how fast they can send spaceships, then I believe you are sadly mistaken.  NASA has made enormous progress in observing the universe and our solar system.  Are you forgetting that fact that they have sent a serious amount of unmanned equipment to Mars?  I mean, so what a person wasn&#039;t on board? They got scientific equipment to another planet.  I think that counts as doing SOMETHING, don&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear what you are saying, but there is no &#8220;budgets be damned&#8221; unless you are George W Bush who spends without regard.  NASA has limited resources and the government won&#8217;t increase its deficit to further space exploration and research (only war-mongering, death and global mischief are permitted budget deficit appropriations according to the Bush Doctrine &#8211; just ask Sarah Palin I hear she is an expert).</p>
<p>Anyway, I admit that the points you raise are valid upon further reflection.  But that still doesn&#8217;t mean that NASA is suppsed to be McGyver and send people into space with a paper clip, gum and a condom.  They need money to pay for research and development.</p>
<p>Where I disagree with you is that they haven&#8217;t done anything in forty years.  If your measure of NASA&#8217;s success is how far and how fast they can send spaceships, then I believe you are sadly mistaken.  NASA has made enormous progress in observing the universe and our solar system.  Are you forgetting that fact that they have sent a serious amount of unmanned equipment to Mars?  I mean, so what a person wasn&#8217;t on board? They got scientific equipment to another planet.  I think that counts as doing SOMETHING, don&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Gamble - Man Overboard</title>
		<link>http://www.babeled.com/2008/09/13/nasa-ares-i-launch-vehicle-us-going-back-to-the-moon/#comment-12033</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Gamble - Man Overboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to rain on this guys, but the Ares is a disgrace to the American Space Program.

It consists of absolutely ZERO INNOVATION!

It is cop-out, half-assed, pathetic attempt at space travel using pre-engineered spare parts!

Lets take an existing Solid Rocket Booster (SRB) and bolt a lackluster crew module to it.  But OH DRAT! - that causes excessive vibration between two parts not designed for each other...i know, we just put a big honkin spring AKA DEAD WEIGHT between the two of them. That will allow it to fly but virtually ELIMINATE it&#039;s payload.

Budgets be damned, if NASA had any shadow of ingenuity left in it they would go back the drawing board and build a vehicle from scratch and remind the world who built the SECOND best space program in history!

We went to the moon in 1969!  1969!  What the $%^#% have we done in four decades!...Nothing!...shame on us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to rain on this guys, but the Ares is a disgrace to the American Space Program.</p>
<p>It consists of absolutely ZERO INNOVATION!</p>
<p>It is cop-out, half-assed, pathetic attempt at space travel using pre-engineered spare parts!</p>
<p>Lets take an existing Solid Rocket Booster (SRB) and bolt a lackluster crew module to it.  But OH DRAT! &#8211; that causes excessive vibration between two parts not designed for each other&#8230;i know, we just put a big honkin spring AKA DEAD WEIGHT between the two of them. That will allow it to fly but virtually ELIMINATE it&#8217;s payload.</p>
<p>Budgets be damned, if NASA had any shadow of ingenuity left in it they would go back the drawing board and build a vehicle from scratch and remind the world who built the SECOND best space program in history!</p>
<p>We went to the moon in 1969!  1969!  What the $%^#% have we done in four decades!&#8230;Nothing!&#8230;shame on us.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Rineberg</title>
		<link>http://www.babeled.com/2008/09/13/nasa-ares-i-launch-vehicle-us-going-back-to-the-moon/#comment-11847</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Rineberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew - thanks for the information about the Outer Space Treaty - I did not know such a document existed.  Hopefully instead of war, it allows nations to put aside their egotistical and maniacal ways to further exploration into space.  Hey it worked in Star Trek.

I first heard about the Orion space program when I was down in DC this past summer.  NASA is going back to their roots of what made them so great and it is definitely exciting.  The Apollo missions for the most part were a success, with a few hiccups.  The shuttle program wasn&#039;t as bad as a plan as most think because it was implemented with the idea to recycle everything from the launch including the rocket boosters.  NASA just got away from racing to the moon because we already been there done that.  The shuttle program also helped NASA maintain satellites that were crucial to understanding our universe.  However, with Orion&#039;s new parachute system (that enables it to be recovered on land just as on water) and to be reused up to 10 flights, it seems that NASA has truly combined the best of both worlds.  I don&#039;t know if you can tell but I&#039;m excited to be here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew &#8211; thanks for the information about the Outer Space Treaty &#8211; I did not know such a document existed.  Hopefully instead of war, it allows nations to put aside their egotistical and maniacal ways to further exploration into space.  Hey it worked in Star Trek.</p>
<p>I first heard about the Orion space program when I was down in DC this past summer.  NASA is going back to their roots of what made them so great and it is definitely exciting.  The Apollo missions for the most part were a success, with a few hiccups.  The shuttle program wasn&#8217;t as bad as a plan as most think because it was implemented with the idea to recycle everything from the launch including the rocket boosters.  NASA just got away from racing to the moon because we already been there done that.  The shuttle program also helped NASA maintain satellites that were crucial to understanding our universe.  However, with Orion&#8217;s new parachute system (that enables it to be recovered on land just as on water) and to be reused up to 10 flights, it seems that NASA has truly combined the best of both worlds.  I don&#8217;t know if you can tell but I&#8217;m excited to be here.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.babeled.com/2008/09/13/nasa-ares-i-launch-vehicle-us-going-back-to-the-moon/#comment-11734</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew - 
you are right about NASA wanting to utilize the moon as a staging ground for Mars missions.  Think of the physics.  It takes far less energy to launch large mass objects from the moon than it does from Earth&#039;s surface.  A lunar assembly line for Mars missions would be awesome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew &#8211;<br />
you are right about NASA wanting to utilize the moon as a staging ground for Mars missions.  Think of the physics.  It takes far less energy to launch large mass objects from the moon than it does from Earth&#8217;s surface.  A lunar assembly line for Mars missions would be awesome.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.babeled.com/2008/09/13/nasa-ares-i-launch-vehicle-us-going-back-to-the-moon/#comment-11726</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...Blood for Moon-dust</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;Blood for Moon-dust</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Molyneux</title>
		<link>http://www.babeled.com/2008/09/13/nasa-ares-i-launch-vehicle-us-going-back-to-the-moon/#comment-11722</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Molyneux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;in other words, they must be shared.&quot;

...or fought over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;in other words, they must be shared.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;or fought over.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Blanco</title>
		<link>http://www.babeled.com/2008/09/13/nasa-ares-i-launch-vehicle-us-going-back-to-the-moon/#comment-11721</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Blanco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s some interesting &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/space/05/19/moon.land/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;info from CNN &lt;/a&gt;about this topic...

The Outer Space Treaty says governments cannot claim ownership of the lunar surface and that stations and installations on the moon shall be open to others.  The Moon Agreement builds upon the Outer Space Treaty but also says that any natural resources found on the moon are part of &quot;the common heritage of mankind&quot; - in other words, they must be shared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s some interesting <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/space/05/19/moon.land/index.html" rel="nofollow">info from CNN </a>about this topic&#8230;</p>
<p>The Outer Space Treaty says governments cannot claim ownership of the lunar surface and that stations and installations on the moon shall be open to others.  The Moon Agreement builds upon the Outer Space Treaty but also says that any natural resources found on the moon are part of &#8220;the common heritage of mankind&#8221; &#8211; in other words, they must be shared.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Carr</title>
		<link>http://www.babeled.com/2008/09/13/nasa-ares-i-launch-vehicle-us-going-back-to-the-moon/#comment-11717</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Supposedly, the Moon has a lot of H3, which could be used as fuel for a trip from the Moon to the Mars.  Man Overboard knows a lot more about this than I do.

If we are planning on building a base there and to mine for such elements, then the I guess the time allowance is justified.

If China thinks they are going to gain superiority over the US space program for doing something we did 40 years ago, well that&#039;s just plain silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Supposedly, the Moon has a lot of H3, which could be used as fuel for a trip from the Moon to the Mars.  Man Overboard knows a lot more about this than I do.</p>
<p>If we are planning on building a base there and to mine for such elements, then the I guess the time allowance is justified.</p>
<p>If China thinks they are going to gain superiority over the US space program for doing something we did 40 years ago, well that&#8217;s just plain silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Blanco</title>
		<link>http://www.babeled.com/2008/09/13/nasa-ares-i-launch-vehicle-us-going-back-to-the-moon/#comment-11709</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Blanco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How prominent a part will this Moon base play in getting ourselves to Mars?  

Are we planning on using it as a potential rest stop?  I&#039;ve heard a lot in recent years about buying land on the Moon for future business development.  I wonder how far we are from realizing those kinds of goals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How prominent a part will this Moon base play in getting ourselves to Mars?  </p>
<p>Are we planning on using it as a potential rest stop?  I&#8217;ve heard a lot in recent years about buying land on the Moon for future business development.  I wonder how far we are from realizing those kinds of goals.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Morgan</title>
		<link>http://www.babeled.com/2008/09/13/nasa-ares-i-launch-vehicle-us-going-back-to-the-moon/#comment-11685</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 01:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the difference is that in the sixties we were just trying to get to the moon, nothing more.  This time, NASA is trying to think ahead and develop means to not just get to the moon, but to have the capability of building a long term base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the difference is that in the sixties we were just trying to get to the moon, nothing more.  This time, NASA is trying to think ahead and develop means to not just get to the moon, but to have the capability of building a long term base.</p>
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