Sat 30 Aug 2008
John McCain’s VP Choice Underestimates Women’s Intelligence
Posted by Andrew Blanco under Current Events, Politics
John McCain’s decision to select a female as his running mate, only months after the historic efforts of Hillary Clinton, reeks of political manipulation.
This “politics as usual” is to be expected, as this has been the status quo in politics since well before the time of Julius Caesar. In fact, we are so accustomed to this type of behavior that we often ignore the underlying message which certain political decisions are sending.
In the case of Barack Obama, the choice of Senator Joe Biden as his running mate is a clear and obvious attempt to compensate for Obama’s lack of foreign relations experience. Biden is not only a long-time member of the Foreign Relations Comittee, he is currently it’s chairman.
In the case of John McCain, the choice of Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate is a clear and obvious attempt to compensate for his lack of confidence that he can win the election without taking over Hilary Clinton’s disillusioned voters. There are 18 million Hillary voters at stake and John McCain would be a fool to not try his best to win them over. After all, if he doesn’t win them, Obama will.
During her acceptance speech, Sarah Palin made John McCain’s motives clear by saying,
It was rightly noted in Denver this week that Hillary left 18 million cracks in the highest, hardest glass ceiling in America. But it turns out the women of America aren’t finished yet, and we can shatter that glass ceiling once and for all.
So basically, what John McCain is banking on is that American women will be so hypnotized by another woman in the presidential race that they will completely ignore the experience of that woman and what she actually stands for.
I’m sorry, but I think this decision severely underestimates the intelligence of women everywhere.
After all, who is Sarah Palin?
Image courtesy of The Wall Street Journal

August 30th, 2008 at 10:21 am
Sarah Palin is the fundamentalist Christian extremist Govenor of Alaska who has more experience fishing than she does in politics.
One thing is very troubling to me with his VP choice: McCain has the greatest chance of dying during his term in office than any other candidate in our past. If that were to happen, Sarah Palin would be our president. Can we really take that chance? I think we would be foolish to do so.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Is a guy who is black and nothing else any less insulting to our intelligence? Obama has even less experience than Palin and a record that consists of one decent speech in favor of Kerry (who lost) and voting “present” on anything that involved the risk of taking a position on a divisive issue.
At least Palin is only runing for Vice. Obama is an empty suit with a speech writer.
By the way - Palin is smokin hot. Therefore I shall retire, hit the gym, become a male stripper, and forever be remembered for my Monroe-esque “happy birthday MRS President” song and dance.
August 30th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Talk about experience:
Palin’s 20 months of Governorship in Alaska is more executive experience that Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and John McCain put toether.
August 30th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
1 - Palin is hot. Former runner up for Miss Alaska.
2 - She adds not only youth and beauty to McCain’s campaign, but as you said Andrew, she will get women voters. A progressive step in a direction in politics is still better than no step.
3 - She was heavily involved in curtailing gasoline and oil corruption in Alaska by whistleblowing and being unafraid to speak up. Not playing the “politics as usual” game.
4 - Obama choice to pick Biden as his VP was a weak choice and everybody knows it. Biden is more worthless than John Edwards or Mitt Romney. I think he chose Biden to thwart any assassination attempts on his life. Because seriously, who wants Biden as President? I would rather see Palin as president than Biden - thats for sure.
5 - Its funny how every one overlooked the fact that Obama didn’t have a lot of political experience and were ok with it because well he’s a great charismatic speaker. And now Obamas campaign is saying that Palin is too inexperienced. Laughable and hypocritical.
6 - Refer to Jacks last comment. She has more experience in politics than Obama. Again who is running for president? Like it even matters.
7 - Sarah Palin had an 80% approval rating in Alaska as per last months poll.
August 30th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
All in all I think it was an extremely smart decision by McCain’s campaign to get her as the VEEP. With the Democrats losing their momentum due to their usual party nonsense, McCain will ultimately gain ground. This only makes him marketable. Elections are all about how much BS you can manipulate the majority of people with. Thats what wins elections. McCain is using Palin to unite Democratic women because Obamas lack to do so only further proves his ineptitude.
August 30th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
#1 “Is a guy who is black and nothing else any less insulting to our intelligence?”- Jack Gamble
That is definitely the most ignorant thing I’ve read on this site since it’s creation.
#2 “I would rather see Palin as president than Biden - thats for sure.” - Greg Rineberg
Rineberg…flashback to Wednesday before her name was splattered across the media. You can’t honestly tell everybody on the internet that you had any idea who this women was and that before her media debut you actually believed she was better for president than Joe Biden.
You are blatantly talking out of your ass and you know it. At least have the humility to admit it.
August 30th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
But Palin is smokin hot. I can’t disagree there.
August 30th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
And Rineberg, I never said Palin would get women voters.
In fact the topic of my post was that the very assumption that women will vote for Palin JUST because she is a women is sexist and underestimates the intelligence of women everywhere.
August 31st, 2008 at 12:19 am
Bottom line: Obama made a mistake choosing Biden and McCain made an intelligent choice choosing Palin.
She is just what the doctor ordered and if you think she lack’s executive experience, then suck on this article from the Wall Street Journal.
August 31st, 2008 at 1:17 am
Nope your right Andrew but I don’t know much about Biden except that he was basically selected to be VP because he’s an old white dude that reminds voters of McCain. What were the Dems thinking when they chose this guy? If Obama is all about change and freshness then how is choosing the McCain of the Democratic party a good idea? Each candidate pulled a 180. Following Obamas speeches, you would have thought that he would have selected a woman VP, not the other way around. But Hillary set the stage and McCain followed up with the encore; doing what Obama should have done all along. Asked Hillary to be his running mate.
August 31st, 2008 at 8:54 am
Obama = no experience to speak of whatsoever.
Biden = Obama’s answer to the issue of his lack of experience in Foreign relations, pure and simple. Obama’s campaign believes that McCain’s stance that he is better in terms of protecting our country is meant to be addressed by Biden’s nomination. Whether you agree with his choice or not is your business. Them’s the facts. I personally think Biden’s voting record shows how underhanded and overly liberal he is.
McCain = gaining support because of the Democratic implosion. His lack of media coverage required a shocking turn of events to get his name and message in front of the public once again. Sarah Palin’s nomination accomplished just that.
Palin = See my first comment.
Vote Libertarian in 2008.
August 31st, 2008 at 10:19 am
I’d consider voting Libertarian if they give the guy the chance to debate with Obama and McCain. As we all know the two-party system is way too limited with the options it gives us.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:57 pm
The biggest issue for McCain is that he shot himself in about 9 different feet and three arms.
Remember Romney? Giuliani? Pawlenty? Lieberman? Not all of them are going to be very pleased that they got upstaged by a no-name shallow attempt to hustle the women vote.
Since McCain runs such a no-gimmicks campaign that is largely dependent on the efforts of his staff and supporters, his most famous supporters are the last people he should anger.
September 1st, 2008 at 12:15 am
McCain’s pick is so transparent it’s ridiculous. Here’s a fact for you. McCain met his running mate once. Obama has fought with and against his on several occasions and served in the senate with him. Which one do you think chose their running mate on their ability and which chose one because of the votes he could grab?
Greg you need to do a little research on Joe Biden. He is a beloved figure in the democratic party. He also eases people’s minds about Obama’s inexperience.
I was thrilled when I heard that pick. Even happier then when I heard of the republicans pick.
From what I have read and heard she is a very polarizing figure who is extremely conservative. I don’t know how you can say she has more experience then either candidate or Mr. Biden. Since when is being the governor of a state with less then 700,000 (which is about 1/5 the size of Chicago) trump being a senator?
September 1st, 2008 at 12:52 am
Keeks,
Alaska Population: 670,053
Delaware Population: 853,476
Is that enough of a difference to make your argument?
September 1st, 2008 at 2:26 am
Jon and Keeks,
If you are both arguing that state population size influences how much or how little political experience a governor or a senator has…well then…
Illinois Population: 12,831,970
Arizona Population: 6,166,318
With that kind of logic Obama weighs in with the most experience.
September 1st, 2008 at 10:48 am
My question was simply why does being a governor impress us more then being a senator. Bush was the governor of Texas and look where that got us. I just put the population down to further my point and question.
September 1st, 2008 at 11:08 am
Keeks, generally speaking, the reason gubernatorial experience is looked upon more seriously is because you are running the executive branch of state government. In essence you are the president of your state so to speak - giving you experience working with the legislature and judicial branches.
Whereas the Senate is full of committees and rubber stamps on bills and laws. From the standpoint of tradition and history Presidents were either Governors, Secretaries of State, or Vice Presidents prior to their elections.
Again, this is just speaking in general terms.
September 1st, 2008 at 11:20 am
Greg, excellent points. Indeed, the most important role a president, or governor, plays is in managing the allocation of governmental resources (the budget). Senators’ biggest criticism is that they are really good at spending other people’s money because they never have to deal with the backlash. Senators make decisions removed from the circumstances, governors lead a local government soup to nuts. It’s the closest thing to the presidency in American political experience (aside from cabinet member status).
September 1st, 2008 at 5:07 pm
I agree with Greg. A governor has more executive experience than a senator. But, as mentioned somewhere else on this blog, the only real and true form of presidential experience is a president running for a second term.
September 1st, 2008 at 6:58 pm
It almost makes me wish that there wasn’t a term limit so that I could enjoy another four years of presidentially seasoned George W Bush. Just listen to the sound of that…doesn’t it make you yearn for days of old, driving your raised pick-up shooting off small arms rounds down the highway, blasting alternating Country and Christian rock while sporting multiple Jesus fish, Bush support, troop pin magnets, and pro-life bumper stickers? It almost brings a tear to my eye.
September 1st, 2008 at 7:01 pm
Just make sure you leave a space for the dashboard Jesus!
September 1st, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Hey don’t knock the Jesus fish bumper sticker. With out it there wouldn’t be any cool Darwin walking fish bumper stickers.
September 2nd, 2008 at 12:17 am
Jason, those people you mention are the worst.
But then there are also the pinko-commy, brake for animals but abort your children as a form of birth control, tie-dyed wearing pony-tail vegans who shower once a month with horse soap made from hemp, that see no problem with a public school system becoming nudist - a decision backed by the ACLU of course, who when caught by their spouse cheating actually say “How dare you make me feel bad for cheating on you!”, and think they know more about a war going on thousands of miles away than the generals on the ground do while not even possessing basic security clearance to classified information, who are convinced not only is the world ending, but also that America is in the present state of Hell and Obama is the “savior” and “cure-all” second coming of Jesus Christ himself.
Both extremes need to be naturally selected, don’t you agree?
September 2nd, 2008 at 7:21 am
Agreed, those people make me sick too.
September 2nd, 2008 at 10:53 am
Hey Jon, don’t knock the nutcase hardcore liberals who think they have a clue about the actual progress and status of our military activities abroad.
Without them, the nutcase hardcore conservatives who think think they have a clue about the actual progress and status of our military activities abroad would have no one to hypocritically criticize.
September 2nd, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Agreed Andrew, and even moreso, without the 10% outer extremes of the political spectrum (5% Liberal + 5% Conservative), what would the other 90% of America have for entertainment?
September 2nd, 2008 at 11:44 pm
Jake,
I doubt the other reps are too angry over Palin.
Giuliani = Attorney Generel, crime was his strongest stance as mayor of New York (a pro-gun control rep attorney genereal….not very Bush)
Leiberman = Secy of State, already hinted at this by his being dispatched to Georgia recently (A former democrat Secy of State…not very Bush)
Romney = Secy of Treasury…ok totaly Bush on that one
Thompson =seriously who cares
Pawlenty = he’s not quite ready yet…back in the over for four to eight.
September 2nd, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Andrew,
How is my comment about Obama being only black any more ignorant than your comment about Palin being just a woman?
Your implication of ignornce is more ignorant than the comment you try to implicate.
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:27 am
Jack I could have phrased that a lot better, my apologies.
But what you wrote pissed me off. Unless I totally misinterpreted you, I thought you were trying to say that Obama got this far in the presidential race primarily because of his race - that people are rallying behind him because of his race. I thought that was a totally ridiculous thing to say. I mean, yeah there’s got to be people out there doing just what you said - voting just cause he’s black and, oh boy, this is so historic …
I just honestly believe the guy has gotten this far not because of race, but because he is one hell of a speaker. After all, he’s not the first black man to run for president. But he is certainly one of the most eloquent speakers, black or white, to run for president in a long time.
As for Palin…I feel she is being used for the woman vote. And anyone who votes for her just because she’s a woman is ignorant. Much like anyone who votes for Obama just cause he’s black is ignorant. I know you agree with me on this.
Like I said, I’m sorry I called what you wrote ignorant. It just pissed me off at the time. And I definitely could have phrased that better.
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:59 am
Anyone is going to seem like a good speaker after 8 years of Dubbya.
The personal attacks on Palin are getting out of hand. Someone stole and released her social security number today after intense accusations of personal family life. I thought both politicians agreed that family attacks are off-limits.
So Palin’ 17-year old daughter is pregnant and Palin is going to be a grandmother…what a beautiful thing! So her husband got a DUI a few years back…most everyone here at some point or another should have gotten one too, myself included. So she decided to keep a down syndrome baby out of respect for life…what, does that piss off the women who feel guilty about using abortion as a form of birth control?
I’ll tell you what…keep attacking and beating on a woman and see where it gets you with women in America (especially the former Hillary voters)…a very poor and unwise political strategy by the Democrats.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:18 pm
It is possible that the Republicans already realize that they will not win and believe that Palin is the Republicans answer to Hillary in 2012/2016.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:30 pm
I hardly think her choice is a sign of the GOP conceding the election, not be a long shot. Besides Greg, going with that logic Palin would not be running against Hillary in 2012, she would be running against the incumbent Barack Obama.
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:51 pm
If the GOP doesn’t win this year, then would’t Obama be running for re-election in 2012? Hillary’s only shot would then be 2016 unless…
What if Hillary wants McCain Palin to win this year so that she can run in 2012 under the “I told you so” campaign?
Now that is possible!
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:32 pm
Sorry Andrew, but here’s my 2 cents on your comment that stated
“You can’t honestly tell everybody on the internet that you had any idea who this women was and that before her media debut you actually believed she was better for president than Joe Biden.”
Did you ever hear of Obama before the primaries began?
Did you really know all the things you know about Biden before the nomination?
Not knowing these individuals before they become national public figures is, I expect, pretty normal.
Honestly, I’m still unsure about Palin but the fact that I didn’t know her before the nomination doesn’t mean she isn’t worth investigating. That’s what it is all about. The fun is just beginning. I hope you are ALL registered to vote!!!
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Jon, seriously, you gotta stop with the “women who use abortion as birth control” thing. It makes you sound implausibly obtuse.
No respectable woman, pro-life or-choice, thinks abortion is an appropriate form of birth control. The women who do are not pro-choice, they are sociopaths.
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:16 pm
Jason, you would be suprised at the liberal scum I have come across in my lifetime. If it is an option, it will be used.
And don’t ever tell me what not to say again, it makes you sound like a fascist and communist thesaurus junkie!
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:40 pm
Oh no, my wrist has been slapped.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Sorry if I came off like a D**K Jay. It’s just a very passionate and sensitive subject for me. I have personally known two people who did in fact use it for birth control. they had the money to raise a baby. There was consent for sex. It was out of pure convenience.
It is people like that who make me want to vote pro-life and ruin it for the people who actually need it (rape victims, incest, medical complications, etc.)
Even though I am way off topic, I will try to get back to the post. Palin sure as heck respects life. This is where the sick sense of humor comes out in me….but…ummm…. Palin said in her speech tonight, “Her family has had it’s ups and downs” when referring to her family and down syndrome baby 8o
September 4th, 2008 at 12:24 am
Jon,
Honestly, I need you to prove me wrong…
…from your comments above I’m left with the impression that you actually believe that a liberal is someone who always takes advantage of whatever option betters their individual situation, without regard for others or even the sanctity of life.
And so then a conservative would be someone who always respects others and the sanctity of life.
Am I off or dead on about your thinking?
Cause if you think that way, then all murderers, thieves, rapists, etc. are liberals, as they have no respect for anyone but their own desires. And conservatives are always upstanding citizens.
Sounds like fantasy land to me. Prove me wrong and help me understand you a little better.
September 4th, 2008 at 12:34 am
Linda,
Thank you so much for finding our site and leaving that great comment. I’m registered to vote, but I can’t speak for anyone else on the site.
Now to address your criticism…
I first heard of Palin last week.
I first heard of Obama in 2004 when he gave his breakout speech at the Democratic Convention.
I first heard of Biden in 2001, right after 9/11. He was on the Foreign Relations committee at that time.
9/11 shocked me, and I think many in our generation, into political awareness. Before then I never paid much attention to national or global affairs. And with the rise of the internet it became easy to learn about all the different people involved in making the decisions that affect us as a nation.
That was long winded, but the point is that Palin’s the only one that I never knew about til last week. And thats only cause I don’t live in Alaska.
September 4th, 2008 at 6:53 am
Andrew - thank you for your excellent response, and again I may be wrong but just because you knew their names and heard them speak, did you really know anything about them until this year? If you did, well then, I am impressed. If not, like Palin said she’s not going to Washington to impress the media, she’s going to work for the people - I definitely do not agree with all of her conservative ideals but she was pretty impressive last night. And I’m also very happy to hear that you are a registered voter. All of you have made this quite an educational and entertaining site! Thanks!
September 4th, 2008 at 7:07 am
Next time just try to remember that fascist and communist can’t be used as adjectives describing the same thing at the same time. It’s like saying “you right-wing liberal”.
September 4th, 2008 at 8:46 am
Actually Jason, there are both similarities and differences between fascism and communism.
They are both totalitarian systems that control all aspects of the economic and cultural life of a country as a whole and of an individual citizen. Look at the governement that was setup in V for Vendetta (2005). I would say that you could use both adjectives in that case.
There are too many differnces to list.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:20 am
Jon, don’t forget to write a reply to what I wrote in comment # 40.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Linda,
My post was never about Palin lacking experience. It was about the assumption that women will vote for her just because she’s a woman. I think that assumption underestimates women’s intelligence.
And as for Palin’s comment “she’s going to work for the people”…isn’t that the job description of every politician? Maybe they don’t follow it as well as they should, but that is their job.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
Yes Andrew, on the extreme left, there are liberals who take advantage of whatever option betters their individual situation, without regard for others or even the sanctity of life. Otherwise there wouldn’t be bumper stickers that say…
“Liberalism: The Art of Situational Ethics”
I never assumed the political affiliation of a murderer, rapist, theif, etc. You are DEAD WRONG if you assume I did. For shitzNgiggle, OJ and Mike Tyson were active liberal fundraisers..hahah
September 4th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Jon, all I want to hear you say is that there are also some conservatives who take advantage of whatever options better their situation, without regard for others of even the sanctity of life.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
There are also some conservatives who take advantage of whatever options better their situation, without regard for others of even the sanctity of life.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Thanks
September 4th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
“So basically, what John McCain is banking on is that American women will be so hypnotized by another woman in the presidential race that they will completely ignore the experience of that woman and what she actually stands for.” in your post?
This is a direct excerpt from your post. Please stop saying that your ‘post was never about Palin lacking experience.’ because you did make mention of it.
And seriously, IT DOESN’T MATTER IF YOU ARE LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE/DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, of course there will always be selfish people in the world that only look to further their goals, whether it is world domination or being filthy rich. That is why I think character in a political figure should be seriously evaluated, regardless of their accomplishments and failures. But thats just me and my opinion.
September 4th, 2008 at 6:24 pm
Andrew just wants to hear you say what he wants to hear you say.
I think it does matter whether a candidate is liberal/conservative/Dem/Repub. It really matters when US Supreme Court nominations come into play.
Remember, as it stands, 5 of the justices were nominated by Democrats and the other 4 Republican. Their records of decisions are direct reflections of their party affiliations (Dem = liberal rulings, Repub = conservative rulings). Most people will say that it shouldn’t matter, but some people don’t see the world the way it really is. The next nomination could overturn Roe v. Wade. In that case, I think it matters very much so.
Greg wrote: “of course there will always be selfish people in the world that only look to further their goals, whether it is world domination or being filthy rich”
…or to save a few bucks
September 4th, 2008 at 7:16 pm
“The differences are too many to list” - exactly my point. You are so good at proving them for me. Thanks.
September 4th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Your point was that fascism and communism are two adjectives that can’t be used to describe the same thing at the same time.
My point was that they can due to the fact that they have similarities.
In fact, this sounds like a great idea for a post: How something can be communist and fascist at the same time…Inspired by Jason Morgan
September 4th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
“All animals are creates equal. Some are just more equal than others.”
September 4th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Only true genius inspires creation. How comforting for me.
September 4th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Greg R., you hit the nail on the head with what you said about character being so important.
And what you quoted from my post is not an assault on the quality of Palin’s experience - it’s an assault on anybody who supports her without researching what she stands for, and what decisions she has made during her political career.
If you read my post on Lieberman’s speech you’ll find I actually admit she has more executive experience than any of the other candidates…which actually makes her the most qualified. I’m willing to learn from what you guys have to say, even if I disagree at first.
September 4th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
A true genius would never admit being a true genius.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:04 am
Andrew - Yes, I read your Lieberman post and I acknowledge that you acknowledge that Palin has more executive experience than McCain or Obama. You just kept saying you didn’t say it in this thread and I just wanted to point it out.
After listening to her speak here are my opinions now of her:
Palin is more conservative than the Pope. Seriously, there is a very good reason why religion and views should be separated from the state. She is more stubborn that GW and she does not practice what she preaches. I am not saying that she is bad or malevolent, but rather that she doesn’t really represent the idea of progress.
I am still not impressed with Biden either.
IF ANY WOMAN VOTES FOR MCCAIN SIMPLY BECAUSE PALIN IS RUNNING FOR VP, THAT WOMAN IS OBVIOUSLY IGNORANT. Anyone willing to vote for a certain person because they share a race, a gender, or a religion is retarded and should therefore sacrifice themselves for a greater purpose.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:08 am
Greg, Amen.
Jon, you gotta get out of the sandbox and put yourself in the corner. You’re getting out of hand.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:10 am
This is not to say that there are women out there that will NOW vote for McCain because he has a woman on the ticket. It’s also not to say that there are minorities that will NOW vote for Obama simply because he is black. These types of people are just as ignorant and dumb as brainwashed zombies. Unfortunately, these types of people do exist.
September 5th, 2008 at 12:16 am
Andrew, I am quite comfortable where I am. Thank you.
You are welcome to try and put me in the corner though.